Jason opens up about his struggles with anxiety, Josh disses a fine cocktail, and they talk about something a little too controversial for some people’s taste: rich people kneeling before a song about a cloth. Spoiler alert: we’re not too patriotic.

Also discussed is The Village Church’s announcement to roll off its existing campuses within five years. Another spoiler alert: this was always the plan, now its just a timetable.

Song of the week: Pluralism by Sho Baraka. // Support us on patreon at patreon.com/collectivecast and rate and review us on iTunes at bit.ly/thecollectivecast.

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